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Old 07-17-2011, 09:49 PM
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Default car not idling after injector maf and tb swap

I just bought some ford 24# injectors and matching 75mm maf and throttle body. Now the car isnt idleing the throttle doesnt do much of anything and the car bounces rpms and back fires and eventually dies. THe maf is properly calibrated and im not sure whats wrong with it. I didnt reset the computer by disconnecting the battery could that have been enough to make it run so terribly. From what ive read putting new injectors with matching maf the computer should learn fine. Help would be greatly appreciated.



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did you check voltage at the tps?


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no i didnt how do you do that? i havent messed with this stuff before.


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well there is slight adjustment if you google it youll find what your looking for. honestly it sounds like they sent you the wrong calibration tube for the injectors


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well there is slight adjustment if you google it youll find what your looking for. honestly it sounds like they sent you the wrong calibration tube for the injectors


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i picked up the maf from someone off craiglist. Seemed like a nice guy had a long conversation with him. It says on it calibrated for 24# i suppose i could have gotten screwed. Could the tps mess it up that bad because it is a new tps i got with the new tb.


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you definitely, definitely need to set the TPS voltage correctly when you install a new TB and/or change the TPS!

You should have 0.98-0.99 volts with the key on, engine off and the throttle closed (no pedal). IIRC at WOT (still with engine off), the reading should be 5V. You should also make sure you have a steady sweep from 0.98 to 5v all through that range. To adjust it at closed throttle, loosen the screws and carefully twist the TPS back and forth while watching the voltmeter.

After you check that and set the tps, you should do a base idle reset.

Disconnect the IAC solenoid connector, and start the car. Adjust the idle set screw until the car idles without dying. Set it as low as possible. You'll probably have to start the car a few times to get this right. I usually open it up a bit so that it'll be running about 1200rpm, and then adjust down from there until it starts to die, then back off a little so that it keeps a (low) idle around 650-700rpm. After you have set the idle, kill the motor again, and with the key on engine off, check TPS voltage again. Reset to .98-.99v if necessary.

After that, disconnect the negative battery cable and reconnect the IAC solenoid. Leave it disconnected for about 5 minutes to clear the computer. Let it idle for a few minutes, then shut it off. Leave it off for 20+ seconds (this clears the remembered base TPS voltage from the computer), then restart it and confirm that it idles well.

Drive around under normal conditions for about 20-30 minutes to retrain the computer, then you should be all set.

Remember, if your TPS is out of range (0.6-1.1v is the tolerable range), then the computer will throw codes and won't be running right.

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no i didnt how do you do that? i havent messed with this stuff before.
http://www.muscularmustangs.com/tps.php

check this out...this is a pretty informative page. Also click on MAINTENANCE in the left column will help you with idle issues.


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okay so the car is running better but not quite right. I checked the tps and got it to .98 but it would only sweep up to 4.7. I didnt have alot of time to tinker with it is it possible that theres something wrong or do i need to play with it more to get it to the full 5V. Also i cant get it to idle properly either. I went through mgmuscari checklist to reset the base idle and it would go to about 800 for a little but kept shooting up and sticking at 1500. It drove decently while under steady throttle or a gradual acceleration but under WOT it fell on its face and reved but didnt accelerate like it should have or much at all.

also on my tb there is another way to move the tps by adjusting another rotating mount with allen keys. Its a professional products 75mm i believe if this helps


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